Tuesday, June 9, 2009

"Help A Brotha Out"

What’s up people? On the way to work this morning I was listening to the Steve Harvey Show. The strawberry letter was about this lady who has been with this guy for 6years, he can’t hold a job down. In fact he has lost two while they have been together, his house and a car. He is trying to get his business off the ground in the process. Now she has a PHD and very well established in her home and life. She has to give him money to pay his bills as well as let him use her car. She got a big bonus check from her job and he asked if he could use some of the money to buy her an engagement ring. What!! Yeah that’s what I said. So when do you draw the line when it comes to helping your boyfriend or girlfriend?

22 comments:

  1. Well here we go...... I think if you are a woman and you pay for your own engagement ring because he won't work you are looking closely at the wrong picture. He has lost 2 jobs his house and a car. The only thing marriage is going to do is give you some of his debt along with give him the chance to loose your stuff. Believe me is is going to loose your stuff too. If you can't pay for gas, why do you need a car if your not driving to work. The damage he has done to her pocket these last 6 years is keeping her from be financially right. In a relationship you should HELP! Take off them diapers and grab yourself some pullups. Begging is out of style!!!!!

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  2. Okay check it, first off why are you still with this dude after 6years and your not married? The heck with being engaged after 3 years yall should have had that done. Let me let the ladies in on something, if a dude plans on marrying you he knows after the first 6mnths to a year. The next six months he’s gone be working on saving money for that rock. Now if he don’t have a plan after a year you need to have a sit down and see where he is headed. Either she is ugly and has low self esteem or old boy has mad game. It should have stopped 3 years ago to me that’s the max, after 3 if you don’t know what you want I’m out.
    Now for the ladies most of them have what they want up front and are looking for it from the point of contact. Am I going to break him off, can I see him at the altar, what will our kids look like, can he provide for me , love and cherish me, protect me you know all that jazz. When she gets caught up in the dream and looses focus she ends up in this type situation. For the fellas if she don’t show no sign of knowing how to maintain a house or has something to bring to the table besides being fine and a nice arm piece let her ride, looks don’t pay bills. It’s a mans job to take care of the home money wise don’t be stupid though. You need to require something out of her.

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  3. This comment is from Shaquana.

    I will begin my comment with some words many of you know. A man that doesn't work doesn't eat. If you are a man, a real M-A-N, you should have a desire to work & provide for yourself & your family. But many men these days don't. It used to be only women, but now men are lookin for a woman that has her stuff together. They want to know if you have a job, car, house, etc. & that's fine. Because I don't believe in that bullsh** some women talk, about a finding a man who has this & that & they don't have a pot to piss in themselves. But women have to be careful these days cause men are flippin the script on that ass! Dropping you off at work in YOUR car, postin up in your crib with a KEY and not paying one damn bill(& please don't give me that sh** about in case I get locked out). & I know when you are in a relationship you should have your partner's back. Been there, done that. But I think the line should be drawn ANYTIME you put in in a relationship & you don't get equal or GREATER value out of that relationship. & I'm not talkin about he gives good sex, or any of the other idiotic reasons some women feel is their return on investment. I'm talkin about UPGRADING you. I mean a man that works so hard it would make you embarrassed to sit at home on your ass. I mean a man with DREAMS, PLANS-A,B,C&D, & a vision for your future together. I mean a man that makes you want to know more, do more, & be more as a woman. That's the kind of return I'm talking about. Anything that you do in your life should add value. & if it doesn't you need to let it go.

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  4. Hey this is from Andrea P.

    Ok my thing is this girl has to be lacking something there is no way in the world a woman with a PhD is dealing with someone without a job, car, or a house. This is how most REAL women roll, when I reach the next level of success every man I meet must be equal to or greater than me financially. No woman is interested in someone they have to take care, well let me change that there are some women who enjoy taking care of men, however I’m ole’ school and I can’t get with the idea of supporting a grown __ man. I agree with the notion that a man knows from the beginning if they want to marry you, be your friend, or just sleep with you so ladies the bull crap about it takes 4 and 5 years to discover if we should be together is for the BIRDS. I don’t believe in wasted time or space in my life, I don’t believe in holding on to people who will block me from receiving something GREATER and it’s obvious in the STRAWBERRY LETTER, that Ms. PhD is missing out on all the awesome men who will be willing to support her financially and ease the stress of dealing with a Nothing!! Ladies don’t cheat yourself Hell, I’ll be alone before I deal with other people’s problems and especially a Little Boy.

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  5. I heard someone say once that in relationships, we often send out representatives not ourselves. I think we enter relationships with the best of intentions, but some men never have the intention of making good on the promises they make.

    I know several of my friends who have had mates who have not held up their end of the bargain financially. It is a tough call because the economy has made it difficult for people to maintain/find jobs and I don't know anyone who likes being unemployed. However, there's a fine line between someone who is doing their all to keep the house afloat and someone who just isn't trying. The problem is, women like to nurture...to a fault sometimes. I think we like to mend the situation (trying to "hold it down" and be the superwoman we hear about in songs) and before we know it, it's x amount of years in and we're wondering how did it get like this. I think it's easy for a male to say women get caught up, etc., etc. but I've learned to be careful of judging a situation because you may find yourself in the same boat. With that said, I'd ask the fellas, if you lost your job tomorrow, how long should your girl stick around? I do think Ms. from the SH show should cut her losses, but the situation is different when you're married and/or have kids together.

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  6. Well Sis Nelly if I were to lose my job tomorrow I would be looking for another tomorrow. You are so right when you are married with kids it’s a different situation and you have to deal with it accordingly. If your wife is working and can help until you get back on your feet that's a plus, she's a HELP MATE designed to help you out. Not to take care of you. When your married you have to look at things in a whole different manner. For better or for worse. I feel now this is me, that a man should have multiple streams of income so if one fails you have 6 more to depend on. Never depend on a employer be the employer.

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  7. I know ALOT of people who need to hear that!

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  8. Now you guys have all said things I agree with. First of all, we are grown a$$ folks now and time is money and valuable lol. I agree that a man or woman know if thier mate is a potential husband or wife. It don't take more that 3 years to get this thang started (for adults) because you already know what you want!! The wife is a help mate....this girlfriend boyfriend thing, support as long as they are showing an effort to get themselves back on their feet. And you will definetly know if their sorry butts not thinking about a job no more and just free loading off you. Ol' girl from the letter obviously have some self-esteem issues, or she's just down for her man...lol poor woman. Maybe she's thinking like most women do....(he WILL change and so will their situation). Now this ring thing is too funny...she's buying her own. Well why don't she just marry her d... self! Yea you want a nice flashy ring but honey it's what comes from his heart and that will be more meaningful than any huge rock. What are those committment conversations sounding like....?? I really can't judge because it's easier to say what you won't deal with until it becomes you and your situation. I will say that Ms. Phd should really sit back and evaluate herself, free loader boyfriend, and their future. Their season together has probably been up "3" years ago lol.

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  9. Hey this comment if from a Male follower.

    Interesting question… Before I answer I have to reflect on a few known facts, assumptions and constraints. Let’s start with the facts, if this couple been together for 5 or 6 years there must be some type of love involved. Now when I say love I’m talking about the true definition:

    “Love - a strong positive emotion of regard and affection”

    One more fact worth considering is the following reported by a very creditable source:
    “Black women college graduates are now earning more than Black men and many White women, The New York Times reported.
    The wage gains for Black professional women came in the 1980s as the salaries of White professional women gained slightly but those of Black men decreased.
    The figures came from an analysis of census data conducted for the New York Times by the Economic Policy Institute of Washington, D.C., and Queens College of the City University of New York, the Times reported. “
    So this is not an isolated incident, I bet many of us know women that make much more than their men.
    Assumptions:
    From this “Strawberry letter” one is lead to believe that this male cannot hold down a job due to reasons he possibly can control, which I doubt. My reason for doubting, if the woman has a PHD, I’m sure she has enough since to choice a mate with more potential. Also since this letter highlights how stable she is working at some company (if it was Ms PHD’s she could create a position for him) owned by someone other than herself. It leads me to believe that she’s really proud of the liabilities she’s acquired while working.

    Constraints:
    In my opinion the constraints are that they are both confused. She’s (or someone close to her) confused for sending in a letter to a comedian for advice. He’s confused for wanting to marry and believing he got someone that will stand by him through thick and thin.

    Maybe they’ll one day end up on equal playing grounds. He may get a job, start a business or maybe just hit the lottery which will put him on or above her financial level. If he makes a turnaround then he may have the chance to measure her by her diminishing attributes or acquired liabilities and make her feel like sh** for not currently having as many worthless things. Or maybe she will get laid-off.

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  10. This is from Deona.

    Why is it that women think it is okay to settle for less. We’re always trying to work with a man thinking, it’s okay if he doesn’t have a job right now but I can help him get on his feet. Please ladies thinks again. If you are successful you deserve someone in your life that is going to compliment that success not a bum or a mooch. And then he had the nerve to ask if she could pay for her own engagement ring? Now that man has really lost his mind, is this your man or a child you need to raise and support? Sweetheart it is time to let go!

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  11. My mom has always told me never to date anyone if they can't help you.......but what did she really mean by this? Helping someone out is lending assistance in a time of need but what this guy is asking for I believe is a handout. I understand losing your job (trust me I've been there), but you can bet your bottom dollar I stayed on my grind attempting to find out what's next. I think the line should be drawn when the bad overpowers the good. Example when you have good credit and your mate doesn't and eventually you find yourself with bad credit for trying to help him out. Somebody needs to keep it going and once it's ruined, it takes a lot to get it back. It would be an insult if I were asked to purchase my own engagement ring (where's the fun in that???) That's something a woman dreams about her whole life and paying for it herself HAS to be a nightmare. If it takes you working at Best Buy, THE MALL, KRISPY KREME, I don't care, but honor your woman and if you want to marry this woman you should want to make that the most special memory she'll ever have. GET IT TOGETHA BROTHA!

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  12. Hey and don't go out buying a cloudy small ring. Save that bread and get that rock. At least 2kts. When I got my wife’s I was trying to blind people. Lol!!

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  13. Hey this is what Shaquana said.

    Here I go again, but I couldn't let this one go :)

    with every the same excuse everytime something needed to be done...well you know I just started working. A hot a$$ mess. So when I speak on this, I've been there & done that. In your post, it sounds like you & old dude have a lot in common, or at least you can relate to him. I find it kinda funny that grown men live in a fantasy land like the one you mentioned where he MIGHT get a job, MIGHT get his business going, or hell, he MIGHT even win the LOTTERY! Not to start pulling his own weight, but to throw in her face how he would have more than her. Sounds familiar. When you're down, you need us, & when you get your sh** together, you get amnesia or grow an ego out of your a$$. & I have to disagree with you, having a PHD doesn't mean you're street smart. It's just a couple more classes, a bigger loan, & a title. I know PLENTY of educated women with ignorant men. Many people say it's self esteem, I'm not sure it's that, but I know it does start within. Oh, & I don't think it is her responsibilty to MAKE a job for him because she did what SHE was supposed to do & earned her degree. I don't even want to get into what would make a thought like that cross your mind. & you say she works for a company "owned by someone other than herself", as if to imply that having a PHD is somehow synonomous with having your own business. I think you should do your homework & maybe look a little deeper into the definition of a PHD. Anyway, I don't think she's confused, I think she loves SOMEone who's not THE one. I think she's tired & looking for confirmation more so than advice. She chose a different avenue than some would choose, but I won't say GOD can't speak through a "comedian", cause I see him "speak" through some of the preachers we sit & listen to & it's pretty damn funny.

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  14. After 6 years people...this chick got all the memos about don't take care of a man and if a man aint got what you got move on. She got those memos i promise and you know what? She threw them away. Now someone is in her ear and given their opinion and making her feel alll stupid about what SHE HAS ALLOWED and now she wants to buck the system tht she herself has helped create!!!! Stop playing...did the potential she saw 6 years ago...slip away? What has changed? Now your 6 years of uncondtional love now has condtions?...Seriously?

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  15. This is from Andrea P.

    OMG Male Follower:

    Were you serious when you posted your comment, or were you just trying to be a smart a$$. It’s amazing to me how men think for some odd reason we suppose to be there for them when they don’t have sh** and then when they finally get their crap together they gain this huge EGO and now you’re on top of the world. WAIT..REALITY CHECK BOY you didn’t have shit when I met you and who gives a damn about what you have now. Most successful women whether they receive a SALARY with wonderful benefits from someone else or whether they dictate to themselves don’t give a damn about some little boy who depended on them to make it, and now that he has “ARRIVED” he has his noise in the air. Let’s be real now, that’s not the way things should happen, do I believe she should’ve left him 6 years ago YES, why did she stay Hell I don’t know, but to imply that she’s so crazy and is self-centered and trying to make herself look good by dogging him out, Hell if she would’ve start dogging his a** 6 years ago he might be where he needs to be TODAY. So nice of you to relay the Statistics with all of us but hell maybe you should rethink this the next time you decide to imply that this lady is tooting her own horn and this dude needs to throw her under the bus when he make it.

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  16. This is a re-post for Shaquana. I missed some of the comment.

    Dear Male Follower,

    Nice Quote. I like a man that does his homework. But let me give you some facts. I am an African American female, college graduate...you know the ones your article spoke about. I had a partner that lost his job the same week our children came home from the hospital. I didn't panic because I figured if he had a pretty good position at this place, he could get another one somewhere else. I supported him mentally, emotionally, & financially. & he would've been the first to tell you, she "carrying" me. As time went on, I noticed that I had more drive to find him a job than he did. He felt like some jobs were beneath him, he didn't know if he wanted to go back to school, etc, etc. Basically he was all over the place. Because of this, it was a while before he got a job.
    & when he did, he didn't just jump back in the saddle & try to get back on track. He wasn't trying to help play catch-up, he felt like he was starting with a new slate. & he came with the same excuse every time something needed to be done...well you know I just started working. A hot a$$ mess. So when I speak on this, I've been there & done that. In your post, it sounds like you & old dude have a lot in common, or at least you can relate to him. I find it kinda funny that grown men live in a fantasy land like the one you mentioned where he MIGHT get a job, MIGHT get his business going, or hell, he MIGHT even win the LOTTERY! Not to start pulling his own weight, but to throw in her face how he would have more than her. Sounds familiar. When you're down, you need us, & when you get your sh** together, you get amnesia or grow an ego out of your a$$. & I have to disagree with you, having a PHD doesn't mean you're street smart. It's just a couple more classes, a bigger loan, & a title. I know PLENTY of educated women with ignorant men. Many people say it's self esteem, I'm not sure it's that, but I know it does start within. Oh, & I don't think it is her responsibilty to MAKE a job for him because she did what SHE was supposed to do & earned her degree. I don't even want to get into what would make a thought like that cross your mind. & you say she works for a company "owned by someone other than herself", as if to imply that having a PHD is somehow synonomous with having your own business. I think you should do your homework & maybe look a little deeper into the definition of a PHD. Anyway, I don't think she's confused, I think she loves SOMEone who's not THE one. I think she's tired & looking for confirmation more so than advice. She chose a different avenue than some would choose, but I won't say GOD can't speak through a "comedian", cause I see him "speak" through some of the preachers we sit & listen to & it's pretty damn funny.

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  17. Hey All, sorry for my delayed response, I just got to the office an hour or so ago and had to go out for lunch. I’m going to try and be quick because I’m trying to get out of here by 2 or 3. Please bear with me, I can sometimes get a little wordy when doing Q&A’s.


    I notice there have been a few opposing views since I shared my thoughts yesterday. Well time is of the essence so I’ll jump right into it. I’ll like to start out by congratulating Shaquana and Andrea P. for exemplifying why I took the approach I took yesterday in my final comments. However based on the tone from the responses they say and I quote that the guy or “little boy” should “throw her under the bus when he makes it.” This tells me that you do not really understand the lifecycle of the destruction of a man. I also noticed you like quotes so here’s one to set the tone:


    "the Black African man rests firmly on the bottom of Africa and everywhere else the African and his descendants reside" - Chancellor Williams (The Destruction of Black Civilization)



    If I may, I would like to expand the scope of the discussion and speak from the prospective of someone who can relate as Shaquana so elegantly put it.


    “it sounds like you & old dude have a lot in common, or at least you can relate to him”



    Let me take a brief moment to try and summarize the lifecycle of the destruction of a man. (Do my homework) How many of you have seen this situation play out over and over again:


    Assuming he can find or have a job… “A black man’s wife (not in all cases) usually earns more than he. Inside his head, he’s haunted to be father-of-the-household. When he looks at his children and his home, he feels guilty of not having given them something better. His only salvations are to not give a damn, or else he will fall into despair. In despair a man’s sense of virtue is dulled. He no longer cares. He will do anything to escape (drink/drugs) or just lose himself in sensuality (multiple women). Most often the sex-king is just trying to prove the manhood that his whole existence denies. Soon he will either desert his home or become so unbearable he is kicked out.” - John Howard Griffin (Black like me)



    To make a long story short I’m not saying the man should dog the woman out nor should she he. Nor I’m I saying it’s the woman’s responsibility to create opportunity for the man “little boy”. I’m saying we should all be more supportive of each other. If she has a BS, PHD, MD or JD doesn’t matter. Use whatever resources you have to help pull each other up and then look back and say LOOK AT WHAT WE DID. I’m not going the sit here a shootout quotes from all of the books and I’ve read (believe me we will be here all day).



    In-so-far as hitting the lottery or the things he “might” be able to do. You’ll be surprised of what “might” can happen if you use all or your “degrees” and “benefits” to pick someone with true potential and ambition. Use some of those bonus checks to start a real business and have something to help your family or to pass on to your kids.



    Hopefully this explains why I let my previous thoughts “cross my mind”. Well anyway, time to move on with my day, I’m really having trouble hitting my 5 iron (golf club incase you were wondering).

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  18. What's up brother Misc! I just wanted to welcome you to the blogspot, I see you have made a few friends. It's some choppers up in here now they go for the throat right off. We all good peps though. Do your thing it's all love here on LL.

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  19. This is from Shaquana.


    Mr. "Misc male follower",

    I'm still wondering what planet you're from, but I don't think we'll ever find out. Unfortunately, I think it's a far away land that many black men live in. Sucks for you. Earth is pretty cool. You now say you "meant" to say we should all just get along & love & support one another. I couldn't agree more. But that's not what you said, so I could only respond to the thoughts you displayed, not the ones swirling around in your head. The only thing I saw were excuses for a man, which you have echoed today through your quote from John Howard Griffin. The entire quote sounds to me like a hot pile of bullsh**. Let me be clear. I LOVE Black men. I have grown up around some the strongest, most giving, hard working, black men around. But I have also seen the dark side. I loved my father. But he had many demons. They eventually lead to his death. He was smart, handsome, athletic, came from a hard working family. But he had a father that didn't tell his children he loved them. He was an educator & dictator in his household & I know many of his problems began there. I see my father in so many black men. There's so much good, but the past & pressure & excuses stagnate any form of forward progression. I've never been a black man. But I know that it's not easy. I also know that NOONE OWES you anything in this life. When challenges come your way you have to face them head on. I wouldn't give a damn if a woman made more money than me. If it's OUR bacon, who cares who brings it home. That echoes a few of the previous posts...black men & self esteem. & again I say, GET OVER YOURSELF! If you can ever stop being a victim, maybe you can get the victory. GOD should be the head of your life & relationship. If he is, you won't be with a person who makes you feel inferior. Relationships shouldn't be about competition between men & women. In my opinion, the man should lead. But if you're on the sofa complaining about how life is holding you down, you're gonna get left behind. & no, I wouldn't be surprised if two "working" people but their degrees & money together to make something. That's what you're SUPPOSED to do. I'm not surprised by much. I'm also not surprised that you're misc. As I stated yesterday, you seem to have a LOT in common with the strawberry brother. You seem to have a need to show someone what you have or can do. I'll say it ELOQUENTLY, not ELEGANTLY this time...You seem VERY narcissistic(if you know what that means). Did someone forget to pat you on the back today? I'm happy you can stop in the office on your way to lunch, & read a book on the way to the golf course. KUDOS! But if I may make a request, the next time you're in Barnes & Noble, pick up a book with less BS. I would suggest Dreams From My Father for all those strawberry brothers you know.

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  20. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Misc: brother where art thou? Man yall are hard core!

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  21. Greetings Shaquana,

    Again you are the shining example of my original comments. Thanks for the book suggestion; I’ve actually read it and “The Audacity of Hope” before he won the election. Thanks for the compliment of being narcissistic coming from someone whom misinterprets comments not once but twice, I’ll take that as a misinformed or half baked compliment.


    Here’s my original comment.

    “If he makes a turnaround, then he may have the chance to measure her by her diminishing attributes or acquired liabilities and make her feel like sh** for not currently having as many worthless things. Or maybe she will get laid-off.”


    Let’s have a quick lesson in reading comprehension. Notice how I said “then he may have the chance to”. By saying “he may have a chance” means, I may or may not necessarily agree with this potential option but it is an option that he can exercise after being made a fool of on a nationally syndicated radio show.

    With me so far?


    Ok…Your points worth clarifying:

    1. Far away land that many black me live: No comment. I can only shake my head and understand how much work we as a people have to do.

    2. The only thing I saw was excuses for a man: Funny because this quote came from a white man whom posed as a black man by dying his skin and documenting his experiences in the black race in an attempt to explain the conditions of the black race.

    3. Our Bacon: This is the point I was making in my second response… Good job, there may be some hope for you yet.

    4. If you can ever stop being a victim: There you go implying again, I never said we were victims. I was only giving you insight into our inner thoughts.

    5. I'm also not surprised that you're misc: I have no idea what you’re talking about here, What does my Blog Name have to do with the content at hand? Honestly, I only responded to a email from a friend whom wanted my opinion for a blog?? But I like the name, it’s kinda catchy…..Mr. Misc.

    6. You seemed to have a need: Actually no, I was just giving you a snapshoot into my day to let you know that all black men do not fit the image you appear to have as wounded victims. But once again you took it out of context. I wanted to give you insight that every black male doesn’t live like the strawberry brotha.

    7. on the way to the golf course: yeah now this part sucks, the weather looked a little iffy. So I decided to go home and watch “Good Times” instead. But again you’ll probably take that out of context too.


    This concludes our lesson for now. Please let me know if you need me to clarify anything more.

    One suggestion I do have is take some time and think before you have knee jerk reactions without looking at things from different perspectives.

    Oh, I almost forgot. The next time you’re in your favorite book store, you should consider picking up a book from Dr. Laura Schlessinger’s collection. I actually picked one of them up when I was dealing with this female that I could not understand. I figured it would give me some insight into her mind.

    Thanks,
    Mr. Misc
    Good day LL Fam….. it's all love!!!!

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  22. Shaquana is back at it.


    Good morning Mr Misc,

    If I am a shining example of your original comments, & GOD only knows
    what they were supposed to be, then you are the shining example of a
    person that uses a whole lotta words but ain't sayin sh**. I am "with
    you" though....taking an extra Excedrin Migraine....but I'm with you :)
    Now,I'm not signing up for the reading comprehension class you're
    teaching until you promise to show me your certificate from your Writing
    & Sentence Structure class. If your thoughts were relayed differently,
    the point you "meant" to make might be a little more clear. Anyway,
    let's do bullets class:

    1. You're definitely on a different planet. No doubt in my mind now.
    But your other posts showed me you do stop by Earth from time to time. I
    told you it's a really cool place.

    2.I don't care if the author of the quote was neon green, all I saw
    were EXCUSES. & the "funny" part is that you used a quote from a white
    man, in black face to tell us black women about a black man's
    experiences. Maybe that's why the quote sucked so bad. It may have come
    across differently if you, a black man(I assume), had given us YOUR
    perspective instead of blessing us with someone else's thoughts.

    3.Awwww sh** now, the Audacity of Hope. I have my copy, maybe you can
    sign it for me...("read it...before he won the
    election"-narcissistic)Keep hope alive for me baby. It's a powerful
    thing.

    4.I never said YOU said men were playing victim. I said if you can stop
    playing victim, maybe you can get the victory. You can go into any hood
    ANYWHERE & get 1,986,439 different EXCUSES for why this one doesn't have
    a job & why this one still lives with his momma, & on, & on. My point
    is, take some responsibility for yourself & stop blaming other people &
    circumstances for your shortcomings. Oh, & when I say YOU I mean the men
    we're speaking of. Not you, Mr Misc(SUUUCH a Narcissist).

    5. Not going there.

    6. I NEVER said all men were wounded victims. Use your own advice. Read
    & understand. I actually said that I have grown up around some of the
    best men around. Instructors & Principals, to laborers, U.S Steel & 20+
    years at Coca Cola, to Birmingham's finest & a member of the US Secret
    Service. But I have also seen the darker side. My father was
    incarcerated for at least 50% of my life, a junkie for another 20%. I
    have killers & drug dealers too. But they are the minority & only
    because of what we call CHOICE. That's why it kinda ticks me off when
    our men use EXCUSES for the CHOICES they make. That's what I said. Don't
    make stuff up. You just wanted us to know. Not gonna give you an out on
    that one.

    7. In the words of Florida, Damn, Damn, Damn!! Class is over.

    I don't need clarification. I love different perspectives, because I
    learn something new every time. & I didn't have a knee jerk reaction. I
    see things for what they are. & while others may not say it, when I see
    a spade I call it a spade. Lastly, I'll pass on the book. I love to
    read, but I love to live. I would prefer human interaction over a book
    any day. & may I suggest something for you, the next time you have a
    girl that you don't understand, put the books down...invite her to the
    golf course & TALK to her. Then you can kill two birds with one stone,
    clear up the ambiguity & get in a round of golf :)

    Smooches XOXO

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